Nous avons abandonné Disqus il y a environ 2 mois. Beaucoup d’entre vous ont notifié cette modification et nous ont demandé d’écrire un Avis sur Disqus expliquant pourquoi nous avons changé. À propos de Disqus, nous avons remarqué plusieurs inconvénients qui nous ont forcés à revenir aux commentaires WordPress. Dans cet Avis Disqus, nous allons mettre en évidence les raisons pour lesquelles nous avons changé et comment cela a aidé à augmenter nos commentaires de 304%.
Nous avons commencé à utiliser Disqus en avril 2014. Nous l’avons abandonné il y a plusieurs mois. Nous apprécions vraiment votre patience et nous nous excusons d’avoir pris autant de temps pour écrire à ce sujet. Nous savons que plusieurs d’entre vous ont demandé pourquoi nous avons abandonné Disqus, alors voici notre dernier avis sur Disqus.
Pourquoi avons-nous abandonné Disqus ?
Nous avons abandonné Disqus pour plusieurs raisons.
Insertion de liens d’affiliation sans droit
Disqus offre aux éditeurs la possibilité de gagner un peu plus d’argent si vous activez Promoted Discovery qui affiche des stories sponsorisées dans la section des publications similaires que Disqus peut ajouter.
Comme nous ne voulions pas de publicité de leur part, nous avons décoché tous les réglages.
Cependant, nous avons accidentellement rencontré ce qu’ils appellent un « bogue » où Disqus insérait des liens d’affiliation dans le contenu de nos publications de blog sans notre droit.
En fait, Disqus a un partenariat avec Viglink qui examine votre contenu et modifie tous les liens avec lesquels ils sont partenaires en liens d’affiliation.
Nous avons découvert cela lorsque nous avons remarqué que Viglink renvoyait des ventes à OptinMonster depuis notre site WPBeginner. Quelle ironie puisque ces deux sites sont les nôtres. Hmmm.
Après avoir examiné le problème, nous l’avons signalé à Corrigé, qui l’a corrigé et l’a qualifié de « bogue ».
Nous avons été assez déçus de la manière dont cela a été traité. Nous ne sommes pas sûrs de savoir combien d’argent Disqus a gagné grâce à ce bogue d’injection d’affiliés, ni à quel point cette pratique était répandue. Il n’y a pas eu d’annonce publique à ce sujet, et nous n’avons certainement pas reçu de crédit en dollars pour les annonces qu’ils ont placées sur notre site pendant je ne sais combien de temps.
Cela nous a laissé un mauvais goût dans la bouche.
Pour plus de détails sur le bogue, vous pouvez consulter cette page.
Commentaires sponsorisés
Nous avons appris l’existence de ce problème grâce à notre ami Michael Hyatt, qui a remarqué que des commentaires sponsorisés s’affichaient sur son site sans son droit.
Il a indiqué qu’il n’était pas possible de refuser sans l’aide de l’équipe de support de Disqus.
Nous avons donc contacté Disqus pour obtenir une responsive officielle concernant ce problème.
Ils ont confirmé qu’il n’y avait pas de moyen facile pour un individu de refuser sans contacter leur équipe de support. Étant donné qu’il existe des critères spécifiques pour les commentaires sponsorisés, la plupart des utilisateurs/utilisatrices ne seront pas affectés par ce problème.
Très bien ! Comme si la lutte contre les commentaires indésirables n’était pas déjà assez difficile, nous devons maintenant garder un œil sur Disqus et les contacter rapidement s’ils activent les commentaires sponsorisés sur notre site. Aucun merci.
Matt Mullenweg, fondateur de WordPress, résume le mieux la situation dans sa responsive à l’annonce de Disqus : « Ce n’est pas du spam de commentaires si nous sommes payés pour cela ! ».
Note : lors de ce fiasco des commentaires sponsorisés, nous avons découvert un Réglage auto-activé pour le suivi des cookies. Il est défini dans l’onglet « Réglages avancés ». Confirmez votre choix en le désactivant si vous utilisez Disqus.
Baisse significative de l’engagement dans les commentaires
Lorsque nous avons activé Disqus, quelques lecteurs se sont plaints que Disqus rendait plus difficile le fait de commenter en tant qu’invité. Étant donné que Disqus était largement utilisé sur plusieurs sites de premier plan, nous n’avons pas prêté une grande attention à ces plaintes.
Au fil du temps, l’engagement de nos commentaires a chuté de manière significative. Après avoir désactivé Disqus, nous avons constaté que nos utilisateurs/utilisatrices commençaient à laisser plus de commentaires. Depuis la modification, nous avons constaté que le nombre de commentaires avait augmenté de 304 %.
Interface de modération
Nous étions très enthousiastes à propos de la nouvelle interface de modération lorsque nous l’avons changée, mais au fur et à mesure que nous l’utilisions, nos éditeurs/éditrices ne l’ont pas appréciée.
Note : Il s’agit d’une préférence personnelle terminée, et nous sommes certains que d’autres utilisateurs/utilisatrices adorent l’interface Disqus.
Qu’est-ce qui va nous manquer chez Disqus ?
Bien que nous n’ayons pas apprécié certaines pratiques commerciales de Disqus, il y a quelques éléments de la plateforme qui nous manqueront sûrement.
Évolutivité et performance du site
Les commentaires sont très gourmands en ressources. Si vous avez beaucoup de commentaires sur une publication, son chargement prendra beaucoup de temps.
Si un grand nombre d’utilisateurs/utilisatrices laissent des commentaires en même temps, cela aura également un impact sur la charge de votre serveur. L’avantage d’utiliser un système de commentaires tiers tel que Disqus est que vous réduisez la charge de votre serveur et l’envoyez à Disqus.
Même si votre site est attaqué par un utilisateur/utilisatrice malveillant(e), cela n’aura pas d’impact sur votre serveur car cela doit d’abord passer par Disqus. (Note : Ceci est uniquement vrai si vous avez désactivé Comment Sync).
Redondance
La meilleure partie de Disqus était que les commentaires étaient stockés sur une base de données tierce, ce qui est extrêmement utile pour la redondance. Cela nous manquera certainement.
Pour l’instant, si nous devons procéder à un basculement, nous désactiverons simplement les commentaires jusqu’à ce que nos serveurs principaux soient de retour. Bien que ce ne soit pas l’idéal, c’est l’option la plus simple dont nous disposons.
Quelles sont les prochaines étapes ?
Pour l’instant, nous utilisons l’interface de commentaires par défaut de WordPress. Dans le passé, nous avons essayé Disqus et Livefyre, mais nous sommes revenus aux commentaires WordPress parce que cela semble être la meilleure option disponible.
Nous envisageons certainement d’utiliser De:Comments, une extension de commentaires WordPress que nous avons examinée précédemment.
L’autre option est de renforcer les commentaires WordPress avec une suite d’autres plugins de fonctionnalité comme Subscribe to Comments, Reply Notifications, Simple Comment Editing, et peut-être quelques autres.
Nous espérons que cet Avis a expliqué pourquoi nous avons abandonné Disqus. Nous apprécions vraiment votre patience et nous nous excusons d’avoir pris autant de temps pour écrire sur ce sujet. Nous savons que plusieurs d’entre vous se sont interrogés sur cette modification.
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Lisa says
Thank you for the update. As a now -post article former Disqus user- I appreciate knowing their deceptive practices and absolutely appreciate the ease and security in which I can now comment.
hipo says
That’s exactly the reason why since some time ago I decided not to use Disqus at all.
Regards,
Georgi
Natalie says
Would I loose all comments that were left on my site via Disqus if I switch to regular wordpress comments?
WPBeginner Support says
Hi Natalie,
No, if you have been using the official Disqus comment system plugin in WordPress, then all your Disqus comments will be synced with your WordPress database. You can view them by visiting the Comments page in WordPress admin area.
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Randy says
Hey WPbeginner,
How do you make your wordpress native comments look like this? I tried using native wordpress and it looks hideous, also background is grayish and people can’t reply to each other’s comments. Any idea how you made yours look the way is now? Please help, would love to use something alike. Thanks
WPBeginner Support says
Hey Randy,
We are using a custom theme so we were able to design our comments the way we wanted. You can also do that by adding custom CSS to your theme. Check out our guide on how to style WordPress comments for more details.
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Knut Holt says
Disquss are stedily more taking the role of being a service for global eensorship, surveillance and spam on behalf of their commersial partners and the constellation commonly called the « deep state » which is also a partner.
They sensor stedily more any comment that goes against the interests of these partners and any spam, according to a wide definition, that might compete with their parners. They do so globally and steadily more also globally ban people that issue comments not strictly according to maintream consensus.
But simultaneously they take the freedom to act as a grand scale spammer themselves.
What I said here I already knew, but this article also shows that Disquss is involved in downright economical Fraud ny changing affiliate links. But I cannot say I am surprized.
Be aware that this activity takes a lot of computational resources from website owners, so that the owners get higher costs and lose income at every corner.
Fagad says
If it is so good, then why you do not use Disqus instead of this commenting system?
Tim says
It’s there on their website:
Personalization
Disqus collects anonymous data from you in order to deliver better targeted content and advertising.
haris says
Great! I am having trouble with Disqus Comments and now disabling it
Dave Ellis says
Pretty interesting reading. I was thinking 0f using Disqus, but on reading your article, I am having second thoughts.
Pat Slice says
I have canceled my Disqus account. Not that I don’t believe in open comment I found that the oarticipants blewback so hard and no real reason. I somestimes think disqus participants were overly irate. Maybe I am sensitive but I do believe that we should be able voice our opinions without being personally and viciously attacked.
Matt Hutson says
I just signed up for Disqus. After reading your post I’m a little skeptical but then again my blog hasn’t got many comments so I’m willing to try something new to see if it works. Thanks for all the good information!
Chrissy says
Did you export your comments from Disqus to your site and if so, how did you do that?
Chug says
Do you need to sign up to comment or?
Tom Tom says
DISQUS is really shady…..
Recently it became impossible for me to post using the DISQUS since they started « building walls » and doing really creepy things such as displaying my business email and my password (which I never used with them) everywhere. So that way they let me know that they know everything about me and who I am and what my business is etc. etc. And I don’t give rat’s behind. They do that even if I log out, delete cookies, clear the cache etc. They must have stole that information from Facebook etc. Never let DISQUST anywhere close to your email or your Facebook etc. They were illegally spying on me, my friends, my communications, my posts and they decided to make posting on DISQUST for me a living hell, so I quit them every time I see DISQUS I just close the browser for that site even if it is a shopping site or site with ads where I may clocik on, as soon as DISQUST shows up, I shut the browser down immediately. I developed such a habit. DISQUS = SHUTDOWN. And now I blocked their domain and IP addresses from my PC.
Also, BEWARE, DISQUS is working with Twitter and Yelp spying on your tweets by forwarding your tweets to themselves.
Aziz Brimah says
Good article. Thanks.
Umer Iftikhar says
Alright! But I just want to know few more things. I am thinking to switch from Disqus since I can see drop in comments from my readers. Further what options would you recommend to stop spam? Secondly How did you switch and took all those comments back to your wordpress from Disqus?
In the last what comment system you are now using?
Is Jetpack good?
WPBeginner Support says
Hi Umer,
We use default WordPress commenting system. For spam protection we use moderation and Akismet.
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Chris Curley says
I simply refuse to sign up for disqus and simply don’t comment on websites that require me to do so.Sometimes I feel like correcting an opinion I feel to have deep factual flaws,however my input isn’t that necessary that I need to be forced to go through the steps required by disqus and I too cringe when I see their eblem
Tim says
Do you refuse to sign up to any website to leave comments? For example if this site didn’t allow anonymous and you had to creat an account, would you?
Kat says
That’s a bit like asking if you’d refuse to get an account on Vimeo, to validate your refusal to get a Youtube account. There are plenty of websites that require you sign up to leave a comment, but few have the history of data breach, trolls and doxxing threats that Disqus has. They have a reputation, and it’s well deserved.
And yes, I speak from both research and personal experience. After deleting a personal-use account several years ago, I later tried to set up a very carefully limited account for my professional profile. I eventually deleted that one too – it just wasn’t worth the intrusions.
I have joined many websites in order to leave a single comment, if they’re not asking for more information than I’m willing to pony up. But if I see Disqus is their comment system, I not only will not comment, I will sometimes go out of my way to let the site owner’s know that having Disqus as their commenting tool is the very reason they’re getting no engagement from me and probably others. Because I am as quick to advocate for tools that I believe stimulate active engagement, as advocating against those that interfere with engagement.
Tim says
Thanks for the post. Would like to have more info on why you saw a 304% increase in comment participation.
This is what’s most interesting to me.
Is disqus just another Bay Area tech bubble startup? Or is there value?
According to your headline you can see a 304% increase in commenting when getting rid of them
What do you think the reasons for this are?
Mario says
Hi,
You are still running native WordPress comments I presume?
Keeping it that way?
Is the « Notify me of followup comments via e-mail. » standard WordPress?
WPBeginner Support says
Hi Mario,
No we use Subscribe to comments reloaded.
Administrateur
Mario says
Thanks, I already figured that out, was too quick to ask :).
nickwalt says
I really don’t understand why WordPress haven’t treated comments like a first-class citizen and made the built-in technology (sans-plugin) a truly excellent experience (for site admins and users).
So often we read about « coming back to WordPress comments » but why aren’t they so good that nobody wants to leave in the first place? Why? Why are site developers still going around in circles looking for a decent commenting technology for WordPress? Why aren’t Automattic developing a truly innovative comment technology for their platform?
Rick says
Disqus has MAJOR problems IMO. I previously deleted a Disqus account because they refuse to take action against trolls that post extremely crude, profane and vulgar comments in comment sections. I had one that started stalking me looking for any comments I made, and then attacking me (personally) over them.
I just tried to sign up a new account with Disqus and found that I had to « verify » my account. Surprise, when I clicked on the verify button, it was blocked by the ‘hosts’ file in my computer that blocks access to know Spam/Attack sites. In this case, it was viglink.com.
So… I just deleted the new account I never validated. Show me ads when I visit your site. DON’T use a known spammer that is going to flood my mailbox with crap just so I can make comments as Disqus appears to be doing.
erse says
thanks for the great review about this product
Trilby O'Feral says
I don’t have a website, I’m speaking purely from a commenter’s point of view. Disqus seems to have many problems, the worst one being that notifications of new replies aren’t showing up. I take part in a Disqus channel page and when 3-4 of us are chatting, it’s annoying to have to keep refreshing the page to see new replies/comments. Then you have to check the times to see which ones are new. It puts a damper on things. The problem is intermittent throughout the day.
I’m sorry for the friend who created the page, but it’s really too difficult to follow and participate in discussions so I, as well as others, don’t go there much now. I’ve been encouraging her to switch to WordPress, I hope she does. Or at least finds a better alternative to Disqus.
Thanks for a good article.
Shri says
Thanks for detailed review. I was planning to add it to my blog. Now I am rethink and research other reviews before implementing it.
D.J. says
I did some reading about Disqus vs. native WP, etc., some weeks ago now. Wasn’t intending to do more tonight, but came across this article while searching on how to monetize Disqus.
I haven’t even started yet and am just trying to do preliminary research before publishing this way.
In my earlier readings, it had seemed that Disqus was a good way to go, but this article and the comments make me wonder now.
Is it true that there is no monetization available from them unless you have at least 10,000 avg monthly page views? Also, what some have posted below about the sharp decline in revenue is not encouraging.
The one thing, however, which still makes me suspect Disqus is a good option is the spam factor. From the readings I did earlier, it seems that people agree with the anti-Spam features of Disqus are great and you hardly ever have to deal with spam at all with Disqus. With native WP, however, it seems people agree that spam is a HUGE problem and you can have to spend a lot of time and energy dealing with it.
WPBeginner Support says
We run native WordPress comments without much spam
Please take a look at our guide on how to combat comment spam in WordPress.
Administrateur
Tim says
Ok,
after reading this article a bit further I do agree with the signup process making it more difficult to just go ahead and comment on different posts. After working in the PSM Plus industry it’s nice to read helpful articles like this on wordpress and commenting ingeneral.
Leanette says
I’ve grown to hate Disqus.
Their developer/moderator team is something to be desired. Sucks that (you) the creator must go through the (development) team in order to make any channel changes (logo/image). And you cannot delete/remove your old channel either. Ridiculous.
Amol says
I am using disqus form a long time.
Nate Balcom says
I was considering Discus as I hadn’t used it before and have noticed it being used on a lot of sites I visit. So there must be an upside..right?
I like the idea that you login once and you can post anywhere there is a Discus commenting system, but I was afraid it might dissuade people from posting as it didn’t allow for back links.
This can also be a problem with spammers, but as I moderate my comments before they’re posted this isn’t an issue. I don’t get enough comments on my site as it is and I don’t want to give visitors another reason to not communicate.
I’m currently using default WordPress comments and am thinking I’m going to stick with them. This article has been helpful.
John Smith says
what comment system are you using now?
WPBeginner Support says
We are using the default WordPress comments.
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John Carroll says
(my last message: request removal of post on censorship)
I guess (please) disregard (or remove) my post about being censored at Disqus since even under a pseudonym, it wouldn’t be hard for someone Disqus-connected to figure out who posted it. They’re still doing it to me (someone else mentioned it happening to them, I replied it happens to me, and my post went *poof* after a few minutes, but theirs didn’t in this case). I hope something good comes of this and websites switch away from that garbage service (IMO). Thanks for your time.
Millo Lailang says
I have been using disqus on one of my websites for a long time.
I just created a new website and had been thinking of which comment system to use. I initially thought of facebook comments but uninstalled it because of some personal design problems and inability to import wordpress comments to facebook comments. Removed wordpress comments also because of some personal design problems.
I got fed up of having to choose and finally installed disqus. I wish it had the option to comment anonymously (which I heard is possible).
Facebook comments seem interesting to me if not for a few things.
Arpad says
Thank You for the honest review! As the most of us « wordpressers » I also planned to change to the Disqus platform but result what I read Im staying with the WPs own comment system.
Thx, again!
Liana says
Thanks for the information very helpful.
Doug says
Inserting affiliate links was not a bug, it is turned on by default. Unreal.
Ian says
Apparently I’m the exception to what WP Beginner experienced and what some others have stated here; I recently switched to using the native WP comments on my site and after a couple of weeks the comments had gone down, not to mention we were getting some complaints from users. We ultimately decided to switch Disqus back on and the commenting traffic has picked back up again.
That having been said, there are plenty of things to not love about Disqus. I’m using the Disqus wordpress plugin for the first time and while it works overall, I set it to not sync the Disqus comments to my WP database but it continues to do so. We have a lot of comments so this is consuming a lot of space/resources. I plan to try resetting the plugin’s settings to see if I can get it to take effect but need to wait until an off peak time when traffic is down on the site should that lead to any problems.
Also, Disqus touts its revenue it pays to publishers as an advantage of using it. When Disqus first started offering the paid ads, we were getting over $1000 per month in revenue off of it. Nowadays, I’d be lucky to break $100 in a month. The type of ads being offered is less desirable also from my standpoint (they used to blend better with the content, now they are predominantly obvious ads with an image that goes above and below the comments and most of the ad subjects are on par with your average soap operas in terms of their content). My guess is this has something to do with the massive drop in revenue.
We also tried out WP-Discuz in the hopes it would replace some of the features we and our users liked about Disqus (namely up voting) but I was disappointed in what I found, namely that anybody can up or down vote a comment an unlimited about of times which would skew those. The social login integration with it also meant that it would lead to new user accounts being created in our WP database every time somebody logged in with Facebook, Twitter, etc. which we didn’t want.
I’m not really sure why the volume of comments seemed to taper off in using the native WP comments; my guess is our users are unusually resistant to change and didn’t take it well. When we first started using Disqus, the same thing happened (complaints) but they eventually adapted. I just didn’t want to wait out the several months it might take for the adaptation process to hopefully permeate our user base and have traffic pick back up.
D.J. says
What paid ads are you referring to? I have only seen that they have this « Reveal » program where you are required to have 10,000 avg page views monthly or else you cannot participate. Is there another program that does not have such a minimum traffic requirement?
Kyle says
That’s because WP has some kind of filter that knocks out comments for the dumbest of reasons. People don’t know it and wonder where their comment went assuming it’s their own computer being weird.
Franka Baly says
Thank you for the honest post about using Disqus. I had considered installing it but I am all about performance so I wanted to see if there was another perspective from someone who had used it for a while. Glad I read this!
Ed says
Thanks! Great article!
Leonardo says
I was thinking about using Discuss, but I guess I won’t do that.
Their « reveal » product (ads) sounded like a good thing for me at first glance and I was going to consider it, but I can’t trust a company that tries to outsmart its users (link without nofollow in its noscript), forcefully pushes its own brand over the website (add discuss to your site, clicking anything opens a lightbox literally overshadowing the site) and then tramples over the authority a content writer should have over their own content (affiliate viglink ads turned on by default, hidden in advanced settings)
Philip says
Great thanks for the detailed post. I was thinking about switching to Disqus but now I have reconsidered. Cheers
Strafniki says
Pretty much this.
Whenever I read an interesting article, alongside (potentially) great discussions, I often felt the inkling to contribute as well.
Then I realized it is Disqus, at which point I decided « never mind » and closed the tab.
Victor Stepanchikov says
Thanks for the information. I was actually about to install the Disqus plugin, but I think I’ll put it on hold for now. Cheers!
Him K says
Found this article while I was shortlisting which comment system to install on my blog. And this is the fourth article that discourages Disqus. I think I’m going to follow your advice, and rely on native WordPress comment to begin with. Thanks for the insight.
WPBeginner Support says
Glad you found it helpful.
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Bruno says
Disqus is horrible.
I was earning a measly $3-4/day and figured I’d keep it cause something is better than nothing. My blog, mind you, sees something like 1,000,000 Pageviews per month from about 150,000 Unique Visitors worldwide and there’s great engagement. Then, after recent changes that they don’t care to get into specifically, I (and likely thousands if not tens of thousands of other publishers) started earning way less than even those minuscule amounts. I’m down to $0.30 a day after they continue « improving » their service.
Ian says
I’ve run into the same thing and am planning to move away from Disqus for this reason (and others as well). I was earning a little over $1,000 per month with Disqus ads when they first launched, now I would be doing well to break $100 per month. My guess is that the ad formats Disqus uses changed from ones that looked more like article links to very obvious ads with an image and a summary beside them. No way to know for certain but just my hunch…
D.J. says
Hmm, not a good sign it seems.
Richard Davis says
I was literally about ready to leave the site and a pop-up came for OptinMonster. I just figured I would let you guys know that it is still occurring.
Emmanuel says
i still prefer disqus
Hamdani says
Can you pls tell how you have styled your present commenting system. I love the neat and simplistic look.
Would be v nice if you get back on this. Thanks.
Shelly says
I hate Disqus more than words can describe!
Mary Ann Redfern says
Discus is trashy. Full stop.
James Shupp says
Thanks for this information. I love the WordPress blogging features and kept noticing the company you mentioned on WordPress sites. This confused me so I did a quick search and found your post. Thanks a MILLION!
Graham says
I see this was posted back the middle of last year. Have you stuck with WP commenting? I was wondering how people were finding the moderation tools when the volume scales? Disqus still seem to dominate comment site installations or are you now seeing some new emerging third party?
CleverK says
I’m a newcomer to the site, but oddly you immediately hit on an issue I had. I was looking at a list of good plugins for making a portfolio on WP, when it suggested Disqus for comments. I immediately went on the hunt for an alternative, because no way was I doing that.
I deleted my Disqus commenting account several months ago – almost a year now I think, and it was one of the best decisions I have ever made, in my whole « digital life. » I will still occasionally comment on a site that has Disqus, if guest posting is available, but I refuse to create a new account no matter what site it prevents me from commenting on. I have been on many community network over the years, and I’ve never seen the level of trolling, harassing and nearly stalking anywhere, compared to what I experience on Disqus. I don’t know what it is about that platform, that brings in the loons, but it drove me right out.
Nice to know there are other, less personal and strictly anecdotal, reasons to avoid them on my own site. de:Comments is a bit pricey for me, so I might just use your beefed up native comments solution, unless my research of alternatives kicks up something useful and cheap (preferably free). Thanks for this info.
WPBeginner Support says
Thanks for sharing your feedback.
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John Dowles says
I`ve been thinking of starting a blog and I think Worldpress and Disqus seems a good combination. If somebody don´t have an account they can comment as guests so I don´t lock anybody out. I hate when you lock people out. I hate Facebook, Twitter, Google plus etc and if they can´t figure out how to comment as a guest I am not interested in their comments.
Haydrion Rayel says
You sound like Hate Smurf. Disqus has an login option with Twitter, facebook and the rest, so If you are hate it, don’t use it, but don’t bash it. Like you said, you are not interesting in their comments, than don’t use comments on your blog.
Mvaldez says
Actually, John has a point (already mentioned in the article), that if you don’t use any of those login options you cannot participate posting comments in any blog using Disqus (however, I think Disqus has an option to allow « guest comments » or similar). I prefer (from the perspective of a blog reader) to post without having to login in anyway (yes, there are many of us, so forcing us to login will exclude us from your blog).
Regarding the article, I agree that (from the perspective of the blog writer) the affiliated links insertion and the sponsored comments seems like enough reasons not to use Disqus at all.
Regards, MV.
Sarah Klass says
I was interested to find this article and also all of the comments. I would love to depart from using Disqus, as I have had a number of people over the years let me know that they haven’t been able to comment and dread to think how many others there were that didn’t bother to let me know!
Trouble is, I can’t find a way to ensure that my comments still show up on my blog. I am not using WordPress, so the several mentions I read about the feature of syncing with the blog database to have comments just show up in the native system once Disqus is disabled is not an option for me.
I wonder if anybody knows if there is a way to export Disqus comments…? The only reference to exporting that I could find on the Disqus website was in reference to backing up comments rather than importing them elsewhere.
I would love it if anybody knows a workaround!
Nathan says
Very interesting topic! I was searching for the right configuration of commenting on my site and this article definitely removed Discus from that list.
I just installed WPDisquz on my site. I think this plugin has a lot of the advantages of Discus without the disadvantages. Do you agree?
Ian says
I just recently tried WP-Discuz when I moved away from Disqus and wasn’t impressed. For me, two big things stood out: our users like the up/down voting in Disqus which WP-Discuz had, however, it doesn’t limit the amount of votes one user can post so you could sit there and click up vote a million times and it kept recording it. I thought surely this would be something the plugin would deal with (maybe I had it installed incorrectly or misconfigured but I don’t think so).
We also wanted users to be able to log in with social media accounts and discovered that when they do, it creates an account for them in the users table inside of our WP database. While this makes sense in hindsight, it wasn’t what I was expecting and I didn’t like the idea of suddenly having thousands or tens of thousands of new user accounts in our database that I would then have to wade through given how our site operates. Others might not care though.
WP-Discuz has pretty good functionality in the base plugin, but if you want any of the add ons (like flagging comments for example), you have to pay for upgrades which was another drawback.
Disqus solved all of those problems and kept the user accounts, data storage, etc. off of our site, and with our volume of comments it just seemed to suit our needs better. Plus we got some complaints when we dropped Disqus which I admit I hadn’t expected; I really thought people would prefer the WP commenting system.
Ian says
You can export comments out of Disqus. The problem arises if you plan to then import them into WordPress; Disqus uses its own unique XML file that doesn’t play nice with WP, so you would be forced to write a custom script to import the comments into your database as a practical matter. If you do some Googling on that, you can find some examples where people have written code to do the importing which might help or work, but I haven’t personally tried any of those scripts.